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Koning · Jun 08, 2006, 08:00 AM // 08:00

for example silverwing slash

Valdis · Jun 09, 2006, 03:01 PM // 15:01

Well, I forgot to tell all of ya.... I dont have factions, we have a baby on the way and were saving all our money for whatever expenses might come up.

So im working with a limited skill pool.

SnipiousMax · Jun 09, 2006, 03:05 PM // 15:05

^Start practicing how to farm spiders with one hand!

Congrats! We've got another on the way in September.

fb2000 · Jun 09, 2006, 03:18 PM // 15:18

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Originally Posted by Racthoh

As of yesterday, I finally finished exploring Cantha as much as I think I can (87%, ugh forget it) so I'll probably start experimenting again with this. The problem is, I've grown too attached to Healing Hands and Frenzy. Spending 1/4 of a second to heal, as opposed to 2 seconds multiple times per run saves a fair amount of time. Not to mention since I'm playing with 16 sword, and Frenzy.

i can only recommend you try out with Mending + live vicariously, spamming adrenaline skills (hint Whirling axe). even after taking all spiders i dont need to use heal signet, and you dont have to put up healing hands or anything, just bash ur way thru, it actually works so well, im ashamed of mentioning it here ^^

i use whirling and the 2 penetrating blows, with 15-6 in axe and 8 in heal, the rest spread over str and tactics

is the fastest ive gone on this run

Racthoh · Jun 09, 2006, 08:46 PM // 20:46

Except I will never touch axe,

and you only need Healing Hands for the outside clearing as I've found Live Vicariously + Watch Yourself is more than enough to tank inside the cave.

And I'll probably drop Balthazar's Spirit for Silverwing Slash, speed it up more so the Final Thrust will always hit for double. (+43 +43 +86, oh boy oh boy)

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Its cut my run times down a lot and works very well if the skills are done in the right sequence. You could always give it a try and tell me what you think afterwards.

I'm too attached to IAS stances.

fb2000 · Jun 09, 2006, 10:36 PM // 22:36

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Originally Posted by Racthoh

Except I will never touch axe,

used to think like you, now i got the half of my inventory (no kidding, i can SS to prove it..) with axes, swords, hammers.. and the occasional bow too ^^

its just dropping healing hands frees up an elite skill slot

and whirling axe does a nice lil increase of your dps, especially if u got a furious axe with u, ive had it recharge about 4 times one after the other ^^

PS and ty for this whole thing btw, it really helped me in my GW career

mad props for it

Tibby · Jun 10, 2006, 04:14 AM // 04:14

hey fb2000 can u explain ur build in a bit more detail

i want to have a axe elite with me instead of hh but dont want to use heal sig repeatedly

also @Racthoh or whom ever, what is ur take on weapons with -10 defence while attacking or the -5 energy.can 10 defence be spared against all those spiders? is 15 or 20 mana enough?

Daft Frik · Jun 10, 2006, 01:12 PM // 13:12

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Originally Posted by fb2000

i can only recommend you try out with Mending + live vicariously, spamming adrenaline skills (hint Whirling axe).

I thought of doing that, but there's something so dirty about bringing mending.

fb2000 · Jun 10, 2006, 07:26 PM // 19:26

well skills are like this obviously:

Whirling Axe, Penetrating Blow, the faction duplicate of it (forgot the name..) or Executioners strike, sprint, dolyak, heal sign, mending, live vicariously

as far as i remember I used to have 8 in healing and 16 in axe, the rest spent over str and tactics, dont have the actual spread, not that crucial anyway

just use the enchantments when youre not facing dryders.. and whirling axe recharges very fast, so it gives u one less thing to worry about (wastrels worry is piss easy to cancel with it)

you can bring whatever elite skill you like, its a pretty safe run tbh

theoretically you could bring triple chop / cyclone axe (ud obviously need a way to get energy ^^) and pile up all the spiders outside to further make stuff faster, but itd be a bit slower on the inside of the cave/getting there parts imo

i feel good for actually revealing something^^. ive used mending since i ever read of this spider thing, tried mending + watchful spirit (5 regen, beat that) with battlerage, however this new setup does beat the speed on it a bit

*goes try a new build vs skales

*
ps bah you bastids have favor again :F well i wont tell you the build then ;P

SnipiousMax · Jun 10, 2006, 08:44 PM // 20:44

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Originally Posted by Tibby

also @Racthoh or whom ever, what is ur take on weapons with -10 defence while attacking or the -5 energy.can 10 defence be spared against all those spiders? is 15 or 20 mana enough?

I use a -5 energy sword...but I only have two energy skills, and only one energy skill I use once I get to the spiders.

I wouldn't use a -10 armor weapon against the spiders.

Koning · Jun 10, 2006, 09:32 PM // 21:32

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Originally Posted by SnipiousMax

I wouldn't use a -10 armor weapon against the spiders.

I wouldn't use that either, but that's me.

Btw, what is the fastest run anyone can ever do with what build? (can we make a competition

?)

I seem always to have a around 45 min. run with triple chop w/me build.

Racthoh · Jun 10, 2006, 11:11 PM // 23:11

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Originally Posted by Koning

Btw, what is the fastest run anyone can ever do with what build? (can we make a competition

?)

I think I'm at around 35 minutes with my w/mo build... still need to try it with Silverwing Slash to see how much faster it gets.

Taurus · Jun 11, 2006, 07:34 AM // 07:34

The W/Mo build with swords is good once you reach the spider cave, but relies way too much on the monters spawns, bad spawn = dead or a lot of time wasted trying to get around it.
W/Me axe with triple chop seems to be the best in the average run and more simple to use.

yassy_visera · Jun 12, 2006, 07:38 AM // 07:38

i seen alot of ppl saying they have -7dmg reduct, this is impossible unless they bumped it up, used to be 5, absorption/shield or rune/armor or any combo there of, max was -5. dont believe me? do a search for it here on guru, now unless they updated it, should still be -5 max reduction, if any one is truely intrested i can post the link, just need to find it again havent read it in a while, therefor i say anet might of upped it. GGing to ya

ubermancer · Jun 12, 2006, 07:42 AM // 07:42

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Originally Posted by yassy_visera

i seen alot of ppl saying they have -7dmg reduct, this is impossible unless they bumped it up, used to be 5, absorption/shield or rune/armor or any combo there of, max was -5. dont believe me? do a search for it here on guru, now unless they updated it, should still be -5 max reduction, if any one is truely intrested i can post the link, just need to find it again havent read it in a while, therefor i say anet might of upped it. GGing to ya

Lets see, -2 from ascalon boots, -3 from superior absorption, -2 from shield, another -2 from shield... and hell, theres even a -1 (10%) on a wand somewhere. So that looks like 9 absorption I am personally playing with.

yassy_visera · Jun 12, 2006, 07:45 AM // 07:45

oh btw tripple chop works great, some ones prolly alrdy posted about it but i am short on time tonight, works wonders with cyclone lotta dmg compared and great for pleasing the masses

but EP can be a pain from time to time, but i go with 0 inspiration so, to lazy to up it

yassy_visera · Jun 12, 2006, 07:47 AM // 07:47

boots thats a 12% chance of -2, with sup abs that -3 100% of the time and a wand that -1 10% ans shield (condition)

fb2000 · Jun 12, 2006, 11:17 AM // 11:17

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Originally Posted by yassy_visera

boots thats a 12% chance of -2, with sup abs that -3 100% of the time and a wand that -1 10% ans shield (condition)

boots 12% chance wtf? its unconditional? and why would u use a wand??
if you feel u need that big of a dmg reduction, just look into a -2 -2 shield..

ive done this run even without a shield with dmg reduction, without eiher dolyak or
watch urself.. its not that hard

Porphyre · Jun 12, 2006, 12:02 PM // 12:02

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Originally Posted by Koning

Btw, what is the fastest run anyone can ever do with what build? (can we make a competition

?)
build.

Done it in 40 min this morning with the triple chop warrior/mesmer build.

SnipiousMax · Jun 12, 2006, 06:04 PM // 18:04

^ I cleared the front of the cave in less than 10 mins, I'll time the whole run tonight.